Monday, February 23, 2009

A Touchy Subject

I know, I know. Some things are really hard to talk about. In fact, this subject is so sensitive I am very exclusive as to who I even DARE broach the subject with. It's especially a volatile subject when you're a mormon, talking to other mormons.

And now I deviate from my skirting of the issue. Why? Well, a few reasons. 1) I really would like to know how other people reconcile the issue. 2) I think it is such a LOUD issue at the moment and I would like the subject not to be so taboo for myself or other mormons. I would like to NOT be afraid to talk about it. 3) Not to mention, it could be a cool litmus test because even though I'm afraid to ask, I am incredibly curious to know what everybody thinks and how they deal with it, if they dare leave a comment.

I fear this topic because it makes waves. I fear this topic because people feel so strongly about it. I fear this topic because I know people whom I love very much stand very far from where I often find myself standing and I think they won't like me when they find out what I think. I fear this topic because I don't totally know what to do with it and I haven't resolved it all yet. I fear this topic because it is something I have had so many thoughts on that it may just be too big too put in a blog.

But I have battled this topic in my heart many times over. And it was, once again, repeatedly dangled in front of my unresolved heart, with an about-face, all this weekend. And I don't think it's going to go away.

Did anybody watch the Oscars last night? I was watching, admittedly, for the dresses. I don't think I saw any of the films that were nominated so I didn't have opinions about who should win(I haven't really had time to go out to the movies much this last year). But I was pleased to successfully get an eyeful of some GORGEOUS dresses. As the event when on, I noticed that I also got an earful of some gay rights activism. That, along with a few other reminders this weekend, spurred a conversation between my hubby and I.

Now, before I shock anyone who may not be aware, I am innately a moderately conservative person in my personal life choices. On the flipside of that, I am very free-loving and liberal, "with a live and let live" mentality in my more general views. It's just how I am. There are many genes I am missing. A few I've noticed: the gene that tells me to scream when I see a spider, the gene that tells me to coo at little babies and the gene that tells me to cringe when I see two people of the same sex kiss or hold hands. A lot of things don't phase me.

And so here we start. I am not innately appalled by homosexual behavior, as I know many people seem to be. It just doesn't come naturally to me and I could pretend to try to fit in with everyone, but that just makes me feel silly.

I say all of this so you can see from what context I come from and what my general approach is to things. I want to love everyone and get along with them, including homosexuals. I want to love them and I want them to love me. I am a people pleaser and a peace maker. However, this issue is not just about avoiding conflict for me. When pressed or compromised on something I feel is right or wrong, I will stand confidently in opposition to whoever.

It is more an issue with the classification of "gay" and then, once determining what it is, how you treat "gay". From my closest understanding of what LDS church leaders have said most recently in interviews with the media and other public statements about people who are gay, they don't deny that some people choose to be gay (which I think can be the case) nor do they deny that some people may innately have homosexual tendencies from more deep-rooted sources that do not constitute a decision but something more akin to a condition. The way they describe it makes me think of having some kind of handicap or disease, like down syndrome or missing an arm. It's more like a genetic mess-up. Then you have the homosexual community who says they are not a mess up. They are diversity. Just as there are different races among the human race there is different sexual orientation.

Innately, I find my heart much more willing to accept these people as diverse rather than messed up. And I really don't know for myself what the case is. This singular issue has been the cause of a divide between me and my religion widening and narrowing at various times, often influenced by how prevalent this ways on my mind and subsequently distances me from the church versus other parts of the gospel which I gain a stronger testimony of or know to be true which conversely buoy me closer.

Lately that divide has been smaller than ever. I have been excited about my testimony of the church. When I think of all the different ways my prayers have been answered , the blessings that have come from following church teachings, how my life has been looked over and how miracles have happened I can't help but be delighted to find myself the owner of my own personal testimony, stronger than I can every recall.

One thing that has since helped me reconcile the "gay" issue is that I really do believe the priesthood is inspired and the prophet is a prophet. So, before anything else, I believe I should have faith that what the brethren are telling me is true. I often hesitate when I think this thought because it's against my instincts. But I've been a life-long studier and practicer of the gospel and it's built up a lot of trust in me so far with how many times it's gotten things right. So, I'm taking a leap of faith on that. I, of course, also have a strong testimony in personal revelation. And while I have not yet received any enlightenment regarding this issue which I would consider conclusive, I believe that while I have faith in the brethren, it is something which I may also obtain my own personal testimony of. I don't have it yet, but I'm working on it.

So that's where I find myself on the issue of "what" is gay. But the issue doesn't stop there. You then go into how to deal with the issue of gay rights and gay family members and gay church members and the list goes on and on.

Back to the Oscars. Dustin Lance Black, the winner for "original screen play" for the movie, Milk, gave a very passionate acceptance speech, as he described how his mormon family had moved him from oppressive Utah to the haven of California and loved him. He went on to offer support and encouragement to homosexual individuals, telling them they are beautiful people with gifts and value and no less than anyone, even when religions and others tell them they are less. It sounded like he was trying to shame members of the LDS faith. And he clearly felt like he had been wronged. And I venture that he very well may have been wronged.

Having lived in Utah and seen the VW Beetles driving around with "a recovering mormon" bumper sticker with a rainbow next to it, worked amongst a lot of gay men who came from other mormon families who had abandoned the religion, often taking their families with them, I have to think that there is something about how the church is dealing with this population that, whether it be right or wrong or neither, it really isn't doing us or them any good.

I hear their anger and I think,"no wonder!" If I were them I'd be angry too. Because I sit on the inside and I don't think the church is a very friendly place for somebody who may have homosexual feelings, regardless of whether or not they choose that lifestyle.

I don't know how the right way to handle it is. I have my suspicions of what might be better. But I think the Church, or at least its members, have yet to handle it well.

My questions: What are we doing wrong? How do we help these people feel like church is a place where they too can belong? I mean this because I assume that we believe the LDS church is for all people who are willing to accept the gospel. And I say this because I think we alienate this group of people, as it appears to me, virtually across the board with few exceptions.

Really, I just wanted to get that out. Ahhh. I feel much better.

6 comments:

Johnny and Anny said...

Wow, quite the blog today. I don't even know if you want comments on this blog, but since it's open, I'll leave one anyway. As far as the issue goes, I don't think it would be proper to be running around saying, "you commie, homo-loving, son of a guns" (I've never seen the movie, so I have no idea what context this is said, but it just sounds bad). I wish there was a definitive answer to this problem...and that's just it. I struggle with the homosexual community trying to redefine what a family is for society as a whole...it's moved from being an individual choice to where as a society we have to try to make this one unified answer. When the questions of marriage and family come up I just have to stand on the other side of the fence, no matter how much I may love that person, and unfortunately both sides feel judged and judgemental. They feel attacked, and I'm labeled as a hater and at times put right up there with those who use to lynch blacks. To the individuals that I know who struggle with this, I see wonderful people, people who I care about,and I do not wish to belittle or hurt them in anyway. But since the seriousness of the issues calls for a decisive act, I have to say that I care too much about society as a whole and families, and my beliefs will not change. Sorry this is long, it's a subject that's been thrown in my face alot too.

Andrea, Mrs. said...

Well, let me throw my two cents out there.

1. "We, the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator’s plan for the eternal destiny of His children."

2. Our religion emphasizes that sex should only be between a man and a woman, legally and lawfully married.

3. I believe that there are definitely people who are attracted to their same sex without ever wanting to be. I also believe that "being gay" always, always is a decision. And, I don't mean that by whether or not they have those natural tendencies. I mean it because a person always has the right to decide how they will live, whether or not they will choose to live by the standards God has outlined.

4. The law of chastity applies to EVERYONE. That means, EVERYONE. The law of chastity is that a person won't have sexual relations with anyone other than their spouse. In most states, that spouse can only be a person of the opposite sex.

5. If the laws of the land allow same sex marriages, then there will be even more attacks on the church to allow same sex marriages in the temple. But, the GOSPEL has never allowed for same sex relations (look at Sodom and Gomorrah).

6. The Church accepts and loves everyone. It's the flawed people in the Church who struggle. The Church holds everyone to the same standards. It's those of us who have yet to be translated who need to learn to love everyone as sons and daughters of God.

I have plenty of gay friends. They can do what they want. But the laws of God won't change, even if the laws of the land do.

El Genio said...

D&C 134:9 and the 11th Article of Faith make me feel absolutely uncomfortable supporting anything similar to prop 8. Yes, the law of chastity applies to everyone, but does that mean that we should start writing laws of the gospel into the state constitution? What's next, the law consecration? Obedience? Sacrifice?

Being gay is not a decision. Most gay people will tell you they did not choose to be gay any more than you chose to be straight. Acting on feelings of homosexuality is certainly a decision. However, saying that the church holds everyone to the same standards, while technically true misses a very large point. All members of church are told that the sacred powers of procreation are to be reserved for legal marriage between a man and a woman. The main difference here, is that as a straight person, you get to date, flirt, kiss, and will always have the hope of finding someone. That hope for me does not exist. I can never marry in this life. I can never date in this life. I can never have a family in this life, never experience the joy of holding my own child, or of living every day to protect and serve my spouse.

Gay members of the church need your sympathy, and we need your love. What we do not need is constant condemnation reminding us that our most basic desires are evil.

dolly d. said...

Ok, yeah, I totally think it is not ok to ostracize or hate homosexuals, but I do believe the prophets and have to support the nuclear family as laid out in the Proclamation on the Family.

On the one hand I want to be totally hands off and say "live and let live." But on the other, I don't want my kids to grow up thinking that homosexual activity is healthy or even normal (or lots of other things that this blog does not directly address, but are also too prevalent in mainstream America).

And can we just lay it out there that most of us ARE messed up in some way or other. It's just not always as conspicuous as the issue at hand. Also, most humans are quite in denial of their mess-upedness and/or quite content to blame it on nature, play the victim, and lay back on the claim that there is nothing they can do about it (hence the fantastic success of all our pharmaceutical companies).

However, I don't believe it. The more I learn about brain plasticity and the brain's capacity to change because of repeated choices or exposure, the more I think at least 99% of us could, quite viably, change the issues "we were born with."

No, I don't think all homosexuals make a conscious choice or want to be "evil," but I do think our highly sexualized culture has influenced sooooooooo many people beyond their conscious decision making...even most straight people and the way they perceive relationships. I'd like someone to do a study on the rise of homosexuality as compared to the rise of pornography (not that all gay people are hooked on porn, but I would not be surprised to find a more indirect link).

Then, of course, there is the fact that no two homosexuals are the same, just like no two Mormons, Americans, girls or boys are. They are not really an entire community, but a wide ranging spectrum of experiences, wants, hopes, and lifestyles. So really, no one conversation has any hope of explaining or addressing them all.

In the end, I would love to gather together every human being in Western culture and shout in their ear “You have more power to direct and create who you are than you ever dreamed possible! Own it! Find someone who can help you with it! And quit griping to the media about it! Just be a good person and then mind your own business!” Man, if we could all do that, I think we could all live together pretty dang happy…even the homosexuals who would still be homosexual.

Wanderingfamilies said...

First of all, this is a touchy subject, for sure - thank goodness we have modern revelation! I am thankful that your testimony is stronger than it has been and that you beieve in the Brethren - that is absolutely crucial in this crazy world! I believe that the Family Proclamation says it best and was issued years before it all became an "issue". Read, re-read it and pray about it...maybe even memorize it - it may help one realize that there are core values that are eternal and do not waiver, regardless of world (or Hollywood) pressure. Remember when Ellen in her first sitcom came out and the show went under?! And now 15 years later, homosexuality isn't taboo, or accepted, but it is celebrated?! I feel sad that this is a polarizing issue, but perhaps it is one of those that are to test us and our resolve to Follow the Prophet?!

Max said...

What did Jesus have to say about the issue of homosexuality?

He said nothing specifically.

On the other hand, he did have much to say about issues of the heart, and about morality.

Jesus was a radical, and in many ways he continuously pushed the envelope against the prevailing jewish religious and judicial powers. Jews have always been interested in what makes an individual "clean" and "unclean". The "law" lists many purity requirements, like washing at prescribed times or not eating certain foods. Take for example: circumcision. Being circumcised qualified a person as "Jewish", but no one thought that God rejected the uncircumcised. The purity requirements of the Jewish law were part of being a Jew; they were not necesarily part of being a good person, just, or righteous before God. Jesus was clear that being a good person and keeping the requirements of the Jewish law were not the same things. One of the reasons he was killed was that he challenged the real importance of the law.

"It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles... what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles, for out of the heart comes evil intentions, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander; these are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile." (Matthew 15:10, 18-20)

The only purity that mattered to Jesus was purity of heart. Jesus objected to people fasting in public so others could see, praying in front of everybody, putting a lot of money into the collection so others will notice. "People honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me." (Mark 7:6)

Jesus is not impressed with externals, for he is more interested in matters of the heart. "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything; they only thing that counts is faith working through love." (Galations 5:6)

The Christian scriptures insist that being clean or unclean "on the outside" does not matter as much as being "clean on the inside". On this principle, Jesus, and the Christian testament reject Leviticus and other "clean and unclean" codes condemning male-male sex. Leviticus actually talks far more about unclean sex between men and women, (especially if a women is menstruating, etc.) I believe most of us in our modern lives live by the message Jesus has given us regarding Leviticus, and in how we approach these laws.

Jesus did not stand for oppression of any kind. Jesus did not stand for inequality. Jesus did not ever approve of sexual activity that took place when it was coerced, or not consensual; whether it was between a man and a women, or male-male.

In the end, I believe we all need to work to help each other and give blessings to each other to support healthy and stable marriages. If same sex couples desire to solemnify a partnership through legal documentation, that partnership should be equal to those in "traditional" heterosexual marriages.